Has someone offered you a huge sum of money or a valuable consignment? It's a 419 or advance fee fraud - find out how they work, and what to do to be safe.
by JandroHGT Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:22 pm
Hello guys, im selling an iphone 3GS on http://www.mundoanuncio.com.

A guy today contact with me, and i answer him with the price, then he accept:

Thanks for mail,I wont you to get back to my with your total cost of everything including the shipment fees than to UK in Euro and dose are the information i need for the payment stated bellow:So that i can forward it to my bank for the transfer....


Here is the Information Needed For Payment:
Account Holder Name......
Account Number............
Bank Name..............
Bank Address............
Iban/Swift.................
Country................
your mail..............
Item Name.............
Total Cost ............

This is the shipping address:

Name: Robert Dante
Address: No 84 Adams Gardens Estate Brunel Road
City: London
Country: United Kingdom
Post-Code: Se164jg

l'm waiting to hear from you asap...
Thanks



Then i answer him and i gave him all info, i looked some companys to make the shippment and i said him the most cheapest.

This is the email that i sent him:
Hello Robert! I was looking prices about shipping. The most cheapest and economy is around 50€ - 60€ with an insurance loss, in case that the package be stolen or lost. With UPS will be between 70 - 150€. With Correos total cost will be around 310€-320€.

And his answer:
Thanks for mail i wont you to use the best Correos for me UPS,EMS,DHL,FEDEX i will pay you 420 have forward the information to my bank now the will do the payment and send you the proof pleas go and pack it very well for me and arrange how you are going to made the shipment my bank is working on your payment...

Best Regard...


420€? WTF? its very strange. Then i received an email of his bank (very ugly, with very bad design) O.O..

***PAYMENT IS UNDER PROCESSING***SHIPMENT VERIFICATION NEEDED***
NationWide Bank Transfer [email protected]

Dear Valuable Customer: Alejandro Medro Fernández

We are so glad to inform you as a result of transfer update.

We are currently reviewing the transfer of the full payment of € 420.00Euro fom our client, the buyer of your auction items *Mr Robert Dante*, we got a call from your buyer and ours' work is to get this across to you immediately.

Please, we need to inform you that Mr David Mathew called to our customer care in couple of minutes away concerning the transfer of € 420.00Euro which has been carried out since this days, but we are only waiting to see the Shipment Proof and as soon as we confirm that, we will give you the date in which your account will be activated.
The bank has the priority over this transaction, we are doing our best to ensure this transaction a good one which we believed, and we make you banking with our bank in time to come.We have authorized the immediate transfer of the full payment to your bank details provided below for further proceedings:

Account holder name: Alejandro Medro Fernández
Account Number: *****************7919
Bank Name: Caja Rural de Asturias
Bank Address: Avenida Manuel Llaneza, 35, Gijón
IBAN: ********************************
Country: Gijón - Asturias - Spain
My mail: [email protected]
Item Name: Apple Iphone 3GS 16Gb
Total Cost: 420€


Hope everything are well correct ?

This procedure is usually taken to protect both the Seller and the Buyer from online fraud and we have given you Maximum Protection by deducting the money from our client bank account.
Now its your turn to make the shipment and provide us the shipment document so we can Accredited the money quickly to your account given to us for the Payment...So we urge you to go and ship the items and send us the scanned receipt so that we can verify the shipment before dispatching the money into your account.

We assure you that after we get the shipment details from you we will dispatch and remits the money into your account within 2-3days of verification process.We therefore wait to get the shipment scanned receipt from you before we can proceed with the Transfer processing

****ATTENTION****

We were ordered to do this by the United State of American government to cancel fraud from Online business. We assure you 100% of getting your money once you make the shipment and send the full shipment document to us.

We have been making these such payments for a very long time but we later discovered that sellers at times will receive money without shipping the items to the buyer.So we have really taken a great measure to reduce these risk and as a result we with-hold the money as soon as the buyer makes the transfer the shipment scanned receipt must be send to us from the seller so that we can curb the process of fraud and scams through this internet transaction and also protect our Good name...

We will send you the password for the release of the money to your accounts after you have sent the scanned receipt of shipment to Alternatively you can send it to our account section with the contacts provided below. ([email protected] )

Nationwide Logo (http://www.rbsworldpay.com/) <-- this link was in that text


We really appreciate your prompt responses over the days and we will keep our promises to ensure this bank serves you better.
You can now go ahead now to ship out the item to ***Mr Robert Dante***

The NATION WIDE BANK OF AMERICAN MANAGEMENT will send you the password to activate your bank account within the next 72 hours of your sending the evidence of shipment to Our Department.
. [email protected]


THANKS FOR USING NATION WIDE BANK® ONLINE TRANSFER.



MANAGEMENT
NATION WIDE BANK



I dont want to send my phone, if ill not get the money. This is a scam? Thanks 4 help, and sorry for my little english.

PS: His email is: [email protected]
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by Justin Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:47 pm
Hello JandroHGT,

Your suspicions are correct. This most certainly is a scam. This type of scam is more often done with fake paypal emails but the way they are doing this with a bank is the same thing.

The scammer is trying to steal your phone. You are supposed to ship it then send the tracking to the "bank" to have the funds released. You will never get the money and you will have shipped the phone to the scammer. More than likely after you complain about the money not showing up the "bank" would cook up some story about needing a fee to release the money just to add insult to injury.

Btw the http://www.worldpay.us/ is a real service but that is not who is contacting you. He is using [email protected] and @consultant.com is a free email address from mail.com like yahoo or gmail.

Glad you found the site before loosing your phone! Just stop communicating with the scammer and he will go away after being ignored.

Justin

by jolly_roger Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:41 am
You are wise to be suspicious of this JandroHGT. If you scroll to the top of this page, the site search capability on the right hand side is there. Type in the words @consultant, it is surprising how many results are shown. That is because the address has been used in many many previous scam attempts.
Yes- the fraudulant individual is trying to scam you. You will be doing yourself a huge favour by stopping all contact with the subject with immediate effect.
Thank-you for the story because others conducting a search will find it.
by Saszka89 Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:27 pm
I have the same problem with this guy. Is there any method to stop him? Maybe I should report this to the police? He gave me the same london adress like for you...
by Arnold Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:07 pm
It won't do any harm, but it's unlikely to do any good. Scammers are rarely caught.
This is puzzling me. It's certainly a scam, but scammers who actually want your goods and not your money usually want it sent to Nigeria or somewhere with weak law enforcement. That London address seems to be a 2 bedroom flat worth over £300,000, and not somewhere I'd expect to find a scammer.
So I don't quite see where the scam is going.

by evgendva Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:28 am
Arnold wrote:So I don't quite see where the scam is going.

Apparently they are working with a mediator. A fraudster himself no risk.

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