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by Angel17 Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:53 pm
I want to learn a few languages and registered by livemocha. The moment I login for the first time, got a message from this "thing". The advantage victims from scams have, is that we learned to "smell" them before they come in. I made up an e-mail address and gave it to her. Here all details:

From: maldalmin
To: me
Sent Date: Apr 14, 2009, 11:55 am
Subject: [email protected]
Message: [email protected]
My name is morin i saw your profile today and became intrested in you,i
will also like to know you the more,and i want you to send an email to my email
address so i can give you my picture for you to know whom i am.
Here is my email address ([email protected])I believe we can move
from
here!
I am waiting for your mail to my email address above
I love you
Miss morin


From: me
To: maldalmin

Sent Date: Apr 17, 2009, 12:28 pm
Subject: Re: [email protected]
Message: Hi Morin! Sorry I was very busy lately. here is my email [email protected]. See you soon.



Re:I WILL LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT YOU.
Pacco Morin <[email protected]>

Para:xxxxxxxxx

My dearest
How are you today? i am very happy you responded to the email i sent to you in your address at the site. I am Miss Philomena Morin Pacco a 24years girl ft5.7. wt 59 i am the only daughter of Late Dr. Didier Pacco from Ivory Coast in west Africa, who died during the war in my country last two years (2007). My father was the personal adviser to our former head of state.


He is the owner of Pacco Cocoa industry (LTD) and personal assistant to our country president on political matters, Before he was assassinated alongside with my mother on a cold blood one morning But by the grace of God i managed to escape for my dear life and ran into a neighbouring country,(Dakar) the capital of (Senegal) here in West Africa and i am residing here now as a refugee.

Meanwhile,I am writing to you now in a Reverends computer and will like to know you the more before we move forward from here!.

I will like to know what you do for a living,remember that you caught my attention in that site that was why i wrote you at the first time. Here is some of my pictures i came here with,i will show you more of me when i know you. My likes are sincerity and honesty and my dislikes are lying and fake life and selfishness. I want to know your real name? your country and how old are you.

Awaiting for your reply soonest!
from my heart,
Morin


HER IP ADDRESS

67.195.15.136 United States (Sunnyvale)*
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41.208.166.208 Senegal*
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* The last IP listed is usually the originating IP address
Here is the text you submitted, with the IP addresses highlighted:
From Pacco Morin Fri Apr 17 07:10:30 2009
Return-Path:
Authentication-Results: mta418.mail.re4.yahoo.com from=yahoo.com; domainkeys=pass (ok); from=yahoo.com; dkim=pass (ok)
Received: from 67.195.15.136 (HELO web111202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (67.195.15.136)
by mta418.mail.re4.yahoo.com with SMTP; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 07:10:34 -0700
Received: (qmail 18188 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Apr 2009 14:10:30 -0000
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1239977430; bh=RZQ1YEQm+R2LK+J5VJhJmEaCmXNWMOBhzzhBizZVAac=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fcSQAh9NNiqppqMwkOf4b1foDENSV/Aojfz1N17NhJngBEpiO+u9eXEJWx3VC8sbIMaIXPSfbJ4plnReO66wz3ndpkAS39B/J1RgnFiHtooMTl4m+t+ysjfJmc4S+lXsFR1tf21JmqET+6fnBIrTACaSYWq3YAr5uGtUElEazfA=
DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
s=s1024; d=yahoo.com;
h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type;
b=X9GN6j8yx9G/s/dwNR+UDPJBedKy8hOoogjmA5PlB1qaNFJ4zq8P5ZEj21z/Z6k9LlpimaHqFMkYy2KQvZqrhi+nCoAfL9IcAWhXbmwF4lgkqPYPw1IsJTuW9p3R4izGHtgQgWZyDvH1FbRssRxlEKvX9Ij0qhKvX1e+HjPtK8U=;
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Received: from [41.208.166.208] by web111202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 07:10:30 PDT
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 07:10:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Pacco Morin
Subject: Re:I WILL LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT YOU.
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxMIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-326608366-1239977430=:16360"
Content-Length: 24857

Now I have enough proof to report abuse by livemocha. It looks like they are everywhere, even at non dating places. In 3 days since my register there, 2 scammers... :thinking: I will report the other one as soon as I get his IP.
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by Arnold Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:48 pm
Welcome to Scamarners, and I'm sorry you were scammed on an earlier occasion. On a dating site?
His (the scammer is certainly male) first approach said "scam" to me too, although it's hard to say why. The email confirmed it though. "Personal assistant to our country president", "Cocoa industry" (a notoriously violent trade in Africa :) ) , and "refugee". Classic elements of a scam.

There are three more examples of this particular scam here. Four, once Google picks up your posting. I hadn't heard of Livemocha before, but as you said, scammers are everywhere.

We don't agree with closing free email, and dating site accounts used by scammers. They're easily replaced. And leaving them untouched means that potential victims can google for them if reported to sites like this one. We have a sister site www.419eater.com, which uses a different approach to fighting scams.

by Johann Meister Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:12 pm
Welcome, Angel 17.
Yes, refugee scams seem to be a Senegalese speciality somewhat...
It is a 419 scam and you did great in reporting that (and other ones) here.
Google will do the rest of the work...

Whioch means, if you reported the emails he uses and the profiles he uses, we would have to start allover again (posting a new profile, new pictures, new names (as to new emails)), and it´s still the same scammer.

Exposing is just a little (no, it is much) easier when scammers´ emails are not being reported. As strange as it sounds first..

Have you googled your chatter´s or "business partner´s" email yet? It might lead you to ScamWarners...
by Angel17 Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:10 pm
First to Arnold! Yes It was a romance scam :oops: back in November last year...! And all I wanted now was to do something useful for me like improving my languages and get away from this experience. This http://www.livemocha.com offers gratis learning and is really good! I registered April 14th and the first thing was a message from this "lady". You know? It*s like coming back in time to end of last year. I know nothing will happen to me anymore while I have learned the hard way, but somehow it disturbes me! If I were in a dating site will not bother me, but in such a site where people are trying to improve and not looking for a partner makes me ungry. That*s why i decided to report them to the site. I already did. Sorry about that. I know it's better not to do so normally, but I cannot warn all the members and explain to them what is the problem and the risk for them. I am sure most of this people don't know much about this. I talked today to my tutor in English, 56yo from Australia, and he thought I was going nuts, and never heard anything about this. So, I am really confused now and understand the point of view from both of you. It is already done, bad or not, I can not change it now.
Anyway, thanks to both of you for the advise and time given to me. :bowdown:
by Arnold Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:58 am
Angel17 wrote:First to Arnold! partner makes me ungry. That*s why i decided to report them to the site. I already did. Sorry about that.

No problem. There are arguments for and against closing accounts, and it's nothing you need apologise for..

by zookie Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:02 am
Hi people. Just to let all know, this scammer is still working on Live Mocha. I just received a message from him.

Message:
[email protected]
My name is morin i saw your profile today and became intrested in you,i
will also like to know you the more and i want you to send an email to my email
address so i can give you my picture for you to know whom i am.
Here is my email address ([email protected])I believe we can move
from here!
I am waiting for your mail to my email address above
I love you
Miss morin


My 2 cents!
Cheers
by The Enchantress Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:40 am
Thank You for posting zookie and welcome to Scamwarners.

The more information we can discover and on this scammer the better to save potential victims.

Well Done :=)

Stolen photo being used by this scammer Pacco Morin - [email protected]

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by lovely stranger Sun May 03, 2009 7:20 am
hi mates;
i register afew days ago on livemocha and receive a mail the same as above,from [email protected]
then i search this name in yahoo and see this page,so register to your site to say that i receive afew mails from [email protected] too.
by lovely stranger Sun May 03, 2009 7:22 am
this is the last mail that i receive today;
from [email protected] to [email protected]
Dearest,
How are you doing today with hope you are strong and fine for me.
I thank you ones again this day,and this is not an offer or any thing that will cause problem between your family,just what i need from you is only help because your profile move me so much that is the reason why i contact you for these transfer and about how i have access to computer is when i go to clean my Rev office that is when i have access to reply mail, I will also like to see you face to face and will use this opportunity to let you know that GOD has chosen you to help me amongst other men on earth its now left for you and God who directed you to me to help me out from this predicament i found myself. I know you are the man i am going to depend and trust my life. I am not going to give your love to any other man because i know you will satisfy me, so needless of looking for another man.

Please i have not told anyone except you and Rev Goodluck about the existence of this money and i will like you to please keep it secret to other people because since it is (MONEY) all eyes will be on it. Remember i trust you that is why i am giving you all this information's!. My love is for you and you alone, I have informed the bank about my plans to claim this money and the only thing they told me is to look for a foreign partner who will stand on my behalf due to my refugee status and the laws of this country.

You will have 15% of the total money for helping me and the remaining money will be managed by you in any business of your choice while i will continue my study.

In this regard i will like you to contact the bank immediately with this information, tell them that you are my foreign partner and that you want to know the possibilities of assisting me in transferring the ($5.3 Million US Dollars) deposited by my late father of which i am the next of kin to your account in your country.
The contact information's of the bank is as follows,

STANDARD CHARTERED BANK PLC UK.

[email protected]
OR
[email protected]
OR
[email protected]


The name of the transfer officer is Mr Stephen Altkinson.

Telephone number: +447031892717
+447031892865

Information about the deposit code are as follows.
Name of depositor: Late Dr. Didier Pacco
Nationality: Ivory coast
Next of kin : Miss Philomina Morin Pacco
Amount deposited: $5.3m

Account Number: SCBUK336589027/SB/56/Q

Philomina is the name my parents called me while they were alive and Morin is the name that people and friends know me with.The money is being deposited with Philomina Pacco, Contact them now on how to transfer the $5.3 million Dollars deposited by my late father of which i am the next of kin.

I have mapped out 15% for your assistance and 5% for any expenses that might come up in this transfer. My dear i am glad that God has brought you to see me out from this situation and i promise to be kind and will equally need you in every area of my life plus investing this money since i am still too young to manage this amount of money.

As i told you before, this camp is just like a prison and my prayers is to move out from here as soon as possible. Please make sure that you contact the bank so that after the transfer you can send some money from that money for me to prepare my traveling documents to meet with you in your country. Awaiting to hear from you soonest!.
Yours forever in love,
Morin.

Edited out email address for member -Jillian
by Ralph Sun May 03, 2009 8:32 am
Hi Lovely Stranger

Welcome to Scamwarners,

The extra information you have given us will go a long way to helping others.

Thank you, if you have any questions, please dont hesitate to ask

Also happy to read you didn't get caught up in the lies
by Angel17 Sun May 03, 2009 4:04 pm
Hello Lovely Stranger! Thanks for your post here. Your comments will make possible that other people will be safe from this "garbage". I have received 5 such requests in livemocha, so please be careful. This one and Alfred Koffi, I reported to livemocha, but I see they didn't do anything about. Anyway, it is better not to report them so that they keep showing up with the same name and e-mail. Otherwise they will only change names and e-mails and keep doing their business and we would not be able to follow them up, and others finding the information on the right time. My concern is for the ones who never hear about this scams and could fall into it. I felt once only because I never hear this could happen. Someone said to me once: internet can be a very cruel place. And he was right!
Thanks again for your information :=) and keep studying in livemocha.
by The Enchantress Sun May 03, 2009 4:43 pm
I have uncovered this scammer using same mails on this Chinese language site;

http://www.thinkcear.com/?p=646

Also on this other Chinese language site;

http://hi.baidu.com/9887763/blog/item/679ebcce0886200492457e82.html

Using name Miss Philomina Suzzy Pacco

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by lovely stranger Mon May 04, 2009 2:40 pm
hi again;
i receive a few stranger mail from Joy Daudi <[email protected]> too.
i think this is the same scammer. because her stories are the same as him before. :laugh-s:
i try to keep u update. :=)
by OldTeacher Sat May 23, 2009 4:22 am
I received today the following message on livemocha and reported the abuse.

"[email protected]
My name is morin i saw your profile today and became intrested in you,i will also like to know you the more,and i want you to send an email to my email address so i can give you my picture for you to know whom i am.
Here is my email address ([email protected]) believe we can move from here!
I am waiting for your mail to my email address above.
I love you
Miss morin "

Note that our "girl" uses now a new e-mail address 8)
by The Enchantress Sat May 23, 2009 4:33 am
Welcome to Scamwarners OldTeacher. That extra information will help alert others to this scammer.

Thank You and Well Done :=)

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Never send money by Western Union/Moneygram.
Never give personal information.
Online anyone can claim to be anyone, any age and from anywhere.

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