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by Tim100 Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:48 pm
Hi guys

Basically my 15 year old sister wanted to purchase four concert tickets on craigslist, we are based in London and the seller claimed he was in Birmingham, England. The seller claimed he would send a special delivery with the tickets, so my sister agreed to pay a deposit. When she did this the person stopped responding to the emails and subsequently the tickets failed to arrive.

I have the persons email address and bank details (sort code and account number). Using a bank account verification piece of software I have tracked down the branch and know the account is live.

I need to find the persons IP address or home address...with the information I have do you guys think this is possible? I am trying to find people who work in Lloyds TSB who could give me his address, if anyone has any suggestions please feel free to comment.

Thanks for your time

Tim
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by Helen Halper Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:25 pm
Hi Tim100!
Welcome to Scamwarners!
I'm sorry that your sister got scammed. Do you have any emails that he sent? If you can post one, including the headers, we may be able to get an IP address for you. Take your name and address out, but please leave in his info, so that others can find him online and hopefully not be scammed.
Also, did you do a bank to bank transfer? If so, please contact your bank immediately. They may be able to help.

by Justin Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:57 pm
Hello Tim100

Sorry to hear this! You have a new private message.

Justin

by Tim100 Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:32 pm
The money was paid into an account via online banking, the person sent her his sort code and account number, I used an account verification site to see if the account was still live and it is..

Isit possible to obtain the persons address or home number from the sort code and bank account number??

[email protected] < that was the email address the person used

Banking information removed because it does not support claim of scam. ~Bubbles
by Bubbles Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:12 pm
Please provide the headers from the email address you received messages from so the IP can be verified. We also request copies of the emails you received as the writing style often tells the story.

In answer to this question:
Isit possible to obtain the persons address or home number from the sort code and bank account number??
and this comment:
home address...with the information I have do you guys think this is possible? I am trying to find people who work in Lloyds TSB who could give me his address,


The answer is no we cannot get a person's physical address from their banking information. That would take a court order. To get a court order, you need to involve the police and that is what I suggest you do. Work with your bank and the police fraud squad to get some action.

It looks like you are thinking you can show up at an address and demand your money back. I don't recommend that because you have NO idea what kind of criminal you are dealing with. I don't think it would be worth getting killed over a couple pounds or a couple hundred pounds. Let the police and the system do it's job.

If all of the parties are in the UK, you have a good chance of some kind of positive outcome. If they are out of the UK, your money is gone and there is no recovery.

We need more information because we may be able to close the account so no one else gets scammed through it. Please provide the information we have requested.

Bubbles, former Scamwarners moderator.

Rest in Peace 24 June 2015.

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by Tim100 Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:22 am
Hi guys

The email correspondence was via a blackberry on a tmobile email, so im not sure if i can access these emails on a computer, to track the ip.
by Michelle Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:37 am
Hello Tim100

Tracing the origin of the e-mail by its location is just cosmetic at this stage, but I am guessing that you are just picking up your mail on your Blackberry. -- You should be able to go directly to the e-mail provider's website (G-mail, Hotmail, Yahoo etc.) and have access to the suspicious e-mail there.

As previously mentioned - you have the bank account details, but no bank will give you the account holders details just because you ask. You should go to your local Police, file a complaint and ask them to investigate the crime.
by Tim100 Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:44 am
ipTRACKERonline.com wrote:Header Analysis Quick Report
Originating IP: 178.239.83.236
Originating ISP: Research In Motion UK Limited
City: n/a
Country of Origin: United Kingdom
* For a complete report on this email header goto ipTRACKERonline


Thats the header, i have caught him out trying to sell football tickets using the same bank account details

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