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by adiav Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:56 pm
Hello,

Im planning to order things from one company in alibaba. Its written gold member. I wrote in google search "scamm ......" and i found in some pages written its fake company. May anyone help me to know its real or fake?thanks for reply

here the account of it in alibaba: http://lvchen.en.alibaba.com/
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by Gateway Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:50 pm
The company website has been around since 2009, the telephone number seems right, so it could be legit

However a word of warning if dealing with a chinese site you have to watch what you are doing

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by adiav Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:06 pm
Gateway wrote:The company website has been around since 2009, the telephone number seems right, so it could be legit

However a word of warning if dealing with a chinese site you have to watch what you are doing


hi,
i found more websites from them. maybe it would help. thanks for help and your reply.
http://www.lvchen.net.cn
http://lvcheniron.en.alibaba.com/
http://www.scowellmachine.com
http://www.sunlitcarnival.com
:wink:
by Inspector Gadget Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:08 pm
Scowell machine Co :
IP address: 173.201.238.128
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC. (Sponsor: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com))
Referrer: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Created: 2010-12-31
Updated: 2011-11-27
Expires: 2012-12-31
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Name Server: ns71.domaincontrol.com
Name Server: ns72.domaincontrol.com
short registration, another godaddy hosted website.
Copyright on the website says 2008/9. Looking a bit suspect.
by Dora Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:10 pm
Hi adiav. Inspector Gadget asked me to take a look at these sites you have posted as I have a special interest in fake sites. I'm glad you are asking questions before dealing a company you aren't sure of. Good for you!

That being said, I don't see any overt evidence of these sites posted being scams, nor any of the typical red flags. I am not saying they are good but I can't say they are scam sites either. You said you found some places online reporting they are scams? Can you point me in that direction so I can check it out?

It's good to be cautious and definitely check them out thoroughly before you do business with any company online.
by adiav Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:44 pm
Dora wrote:Hi adiav. Inspector Gadget asked me to take a look at these sites you have posted as I have a special interest in fake sites. I'm glad you are asking questions before dealing a company you aren't sure of. Good for you!

That being said, I don't see any overt evidence of these sites posted being scams, nor any of the typical red flags. I am not saying they are good but I can't say they are scam sites either. You said you found some places online reporting they are scams? Can you point me in that direction so I can check it out?

It's good to be cautious and definitely check them out thoroughly before you do business with any company online.


hello.thanks for reply.
i found in this website.it look strange for me,so i better check myself to be sure.
http://trade-ask.com/changxing-lvchen-i ... 49122.html

p.s. sad,but already i've been scammed,so now learning from mistakes and be more carefull :laugh-s:

waiting news :)
by Dora Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:11 pm
No need to quote the entire post, we can see it above. ;)

This little bit here? http://trade-ask.com/changxing-lvchen-i ... 49122.html


changxing lvchen import and export
Users questions:this is a fake company dont buy from them
Experts answer:Being Scammed WON’T happen to you again! Dear friend, there are too many scammers here. How can you do business successfully but not be scammed? What shall you do if you cannot make sure whether the supplier is real or not? How can the business activity become easier? Well, You can come to us. We can do that for you. Email: [email protected] MSN: [email protected]
Experts answer:This is Zhenxiangyuan Furniture . I think we're cooperate each other . What do you think our products ? Or give some advise to connect the custmers .


None of that makes much sense to me. Seems like someone posts it is a scam (without any evidence to support the claim), then another person ([email protected] ) claims they can tell you if the supplier is real or not (why should you trust them??), then a furniture company posts? Confusing. :lol:

I can't even tell if that website is in any way legit: http://www.trade-ask.com/ It's only been around since July of this year:

Domain Name: TRADE-ASK.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS77.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS78.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 03-jul-2011
Creation Date: 03-jul-2011
Expiration Date: 03-jul-2012



So here's the thing, I really can't advise you that these sites are legit but I can't say they are scams either. There are literally hundreds and thousands of these Chinese sites on the internet -- they all can't be legit, but they aren't automatically fake either. So ask yourself these questions:

1. Is the offer too good to be true? The price is significantly lower than anywhere else? They are making impossible claims? Then it is most likely a scam or sham.

2. How do you have to pay for it? WU/MG? Run the other way! This is just like handing cash to a stranger. Don't do it as you have no recourse to get your money back. PayPal or other online fund transfer? Make sure it is a legitimate service and has been around for a long time. Also make sure you are dealing with the legitimate site and not a scammer's fake site with the same (or similar) name. Always make sure you have a way to get your money back if the transaction goes sideways.

3. Until you are comfortable doing business with a new-to-you company online, don't give them more money than you are willing to lose.


So sorry I can't be more helpful. I don't see anything about these sites to say they are a scam, but I can't endorse them either. I know this -- I wouldn't give them any of my money without some evidence somewhere that they are legit besides Alibaba. IMHO (not reflecting the views of Scamwarners or anyone else), Alibaba has more scammers than legitimate businesses and I wouldn't deal with most of them ever.

And I am sorry you were previously scammed. That sucks. But you have obviously learned your lesson and that is very important. :D
by Terminator5 Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:56 pm
With the voluminous amount of export fraud its hard to say . I was unable to find any positive or negative feedback on this company .

The fact that they are an Alibaba Gold Supplier and Trustpass member , does not guarantee you wont be scammed .

Reports of Scams by Alibaba Gold Members

http://www.chinawhy.net/Blog/Article.asp?id=24

http://www.worldlawdirect.com/forum/off ... -list.html

http://www.chinabuye.com/forum/showthre ... cam?p=8483

http://www.cybercrimeops.com/forums/sho ... hp?t=41898

http://business.globaltimes.cn/comment/ ... 27337.html

Reports of Scams by Alibaba Trustpass Members

http://www.thewholesaleforums.co.uk/for ... -scam.html


I would suggest using the resources here and verifying this company yourself :


http://www.chinawhy.net/Blog/Article.asp?id=28

http://www.chinawhy.net/Blog/Article.asp?id=29

http://www.chinawhy.net/Blog/Article.asp?id=34

http://www.chinawhy.net/Blog/Article.asp?id=38

Cyber Search for the company name here . I found this, this morning and would be a useful tool for many to bookmark .

http://www.icris.cr.gov.hk/csci/

Daniel 8 :25
by jarodzhang Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:04 am
Inspector Gadget wrote:Scowell machine Co :
IP address: 173.201.238.128
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC. (Sponsor: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com))
Referrer: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Created: 2010-12-31
Updated: 2011-11-27
Expires: 2012-12-31
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Name Server: ns71.domaincontrol.com
Name Server: ns72.domaincontrol.com
short registration, another godaddy hosted website.
Copyright on the website says 2008/9. Looking a bit suspect.


hi,we are not a cheater,we are a genuine supplier in china.
Today I find this information on internet,so it's very surprised.pls don't misunderstand,we are the Zhangjiagang scowell machine co.,ltd,we mainly supply all kinds of beverage machines.if there is any one doubt it,welcome to vist our here,to see machine firstly and make the decision that if is it ok or not.we also accpet L/C payment too.
wish everyone can give a just remark,thanks.
If there is any question,welcome to contact with us freely,through our e-mail: [email protected]

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