Has someone offered you a huge sum of money or a valuable consignment? It's a 419 or advance fee fraud - find out how they work, and what to do to be safe.
by jxsilicon9 Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:13 pm
Okay, I received a reply from a business buying site where I have a business listed. So far he has asked me to sign an nda and MOu(memorandum of understanding). Saying he will come to US later but wants me to help invest money for him. Email below.




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Dear Jamar,

My father served in the capacity of oil minister in my country Sao Tome & Principe. Our major interest is to own a refinery in the US and investment in the mine and oil trade will be enough to keep us busy. Momen, your client (the owner of the mine) wants a proof of funds before we can make progress. That is as good as announcing to the authorities of our migration and investment plans( As it is contrary to the NON-CIRCUMVENTION AGREEMENT).

My father will do no such thing he has secured means of moving the funds into the US. Jamar, you are an agent and needs money and good connection from good people i quite appreciate your effort as an agent and i assure you that your effort will be generously rewarded.Sign the NDA yourself and provide me with certain and sure information about the prospects of the mine.
Regards,
Alex Carvalho

On 11/8/07, jamar joyner <> wrote:

Can you send me proof of funds before I sign the NDA? The owner wants to check out buyers because several buyers have looked at the mine but didn't have the funds to acquire it.


Alex Carvalho <alexcarvalho17> wrote:

Sorry for the delay here is the copy of the attached NDA_Non_Circ.I will speak with you later on the phone
Regards,
Alex Carvalho
Phone +447024020079
Fax +442030022737
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by benjamin Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:41 am
Hi jx

It certainly has all the hallmarks of a scam. Does he claim to be in that country? The phone number has a UK code but can redirect to anywhere in the world. The email address is gmail, so it's impossible to say exactly where it came from.
There is a Carvalho who was minister of natural resources and is now minister of health, but the name is probably the only connection your correspondant has with him.

by ChrisSmith Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:19 am
Without a doubt a scam.

It's a typical 419. "Memorandums of Understanding" are a very, very common scammer tactic and the name Carvalho shows up as one that scammers have aliased under before. Add to that the whole thing reads like a typical 419 and the format is identical to the thousands of other scams that are out there and you don't need to nail this guy's location down.
He's 100% scammer - plain and simple.

by jxsilicon9 Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:02 pm
Thanks for replies. I'm so tired of these morons wasting my time. Like I'm really going to send them money or bank details. The last scam I received the person asked for 80k and my pin number right off the bat. And then they would give me $80 million. These people are whacked.
by SPY007 Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:42 pm
yes this is a scam. I have been looking to buy scrap fridge compressors I have already fallen for a scam
where guy said that he will charge me $190 per mt
Dear SPY007
There is a problem Maz we cannot export the 13.5mt my boss is
insisting that it has to be 50mt cause we only allow the minimum of
50mt.inform me if i should proceed and the Sgs will not approve the
shipment of 13.5mt in a 20ft container cause the containmers will be
loose and could cause the compressors clashing and it is not good for
the vessel.

Please get back asap so that we can arrange more better and export the 50mt

Regards,

White


I am back in the uk now and I have been updated by my assistance Yuri, about the purchase. Loading will commence on thursday SPY007 and will get back to you with loading schedules by tomorrow.

White

I FOUND THAT alot of the scammers on alibaba and alot of these similar site they are trying to sell you something they don't have . they take picture and post them on there site I got scammed out of $10.000
they ask you to proove that you have funds and send them scanned copies of TT slips or make payments to your self via western Union to proove that you have funds , they will not allow you to come and view goods they ask you to make deposit payments before you come and view goods also they want deposits upfront before anything. The truth of the matter is that they don't have what they are selling they are very crafty and cunning so be aware.
by Arnold Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:01 pm
Welcome to Scamwarners. I'm sorry to hear you were scammed.
SPY007 wrote:they ask you to proove that you have funds and send them scanned copies of TT slips or make payments to your self via western Union to proove that you have funds

Rental scammers use that a lot, and we aren't surprised that other scammers have adopted it.

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