Has someone offered you a huge sum of money or a valuable consignment? It's a 419 or advance fee fraud - find out how they work, and what to do to be safe.
by alaintarn Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:41 am
Hi,
I'm from France, I explain to you my problem.
I want to buy IPHONE 4S-64Gb, I have received on a forum the adresse of T2A LTD.http://www.ablewise.com/ads/view/38175105/
This company exixts : http://bizzy.co.uk/uk/07635909/t2a
They contact me by phone with this call number : +27735566004
on skype : Jason ROWLAND from London UK, the call number of this company is : +447011130025
the web site : http://www.t2altd.page.tl/Contact.htm
the email adress : [email protected]
I sent to me a proforma for just 1 (one) IPHONE
I sent my money by Western Union 400 usd to Mr NOURDIN SABOUR who lives in Souath Africa.
So after they say to me that your MOQ (minimum Order Quantity) is 3 units because in France it has a lot of taxes to entrance (250 usd).
They ask to me to send us 350 usd, and after my payment they sent to me 3 IPHONES + 1 free
I sent to us 350 usd, they sent to me the tracking number.
When I verify, they make a mistake and send to me a package with 20 units ! and so they want that I payed 240 usd more!
But I refuse to pay any more, so I ask to them that they end my package in cash delivery but they refused.
look the copy of my last message on SKYPE this morning :
[10:52:32] Alain RAYMOND:
no I'm very sérious but I think that you are not sérious,
I suggested you sending to me package with 3 IPHONES, in cash on delivery, that is I shall pay the balance to the carrier so that he gives me the package what would prove your good faith.
I do not understand why you refuse? You have to be afraid of nothing if you are honest, because I cannot have my package that if I pay the carrier.
As I have already explained it to you several times, I don't understand why from the beginning you did not say to me that the MOQ was 3 and the total amount of this purchase.
You even sent me a pro forma for 1 only device.
I sent you 400 USD and 350 USD and now you ask me another 3rd sum! Thus understand that I am suspicious because nothing says to me that by paying I shall have my IPHONES. From my part I proved you to 2 occasions my good faith but you, you did not still prove me that you are honest. I, now it is on you to prove me that I trust you.
[10:54:42] Jason Rowland: you ask for the company web and i gave it to you
[10:56:34] Jason Rowland: so what else do you want me to prove to you and i also told you after the payment i will send you the CEO international passport after this you get your package
So I can sent to you all documents you want:
- copy of my payments with Western Union,
- copy of pro forma
- screen copy of tracking
If you need something else tell me .
So now, I ask them to pay off the money which I sent them but they refuse, how to get back my money?
excuse me for my english !
Thank you
regards
Alain RAYMOND
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by Gateway Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:53 am
Hi !

I am afraid to tell you that YES this is a scam, and I am afraid that you have lost your money

+447011130025

This number is a redirect so I doubt that the scammer is in London, because you sent the money via Western Union it can be collected anywhere.

All you can do is put it down to experience, please do not have anymore contact with the scammer

If you wish you can email me at
[email protected]

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by alaintarn Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:14 am
Hello,

Thank you for your ansmer !
so I lost my money, I am going to try to get back it, thank you still

regards


Alain
by vonpaso xlura Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:24 am
There's no sense trying to get it back; it's lost. Better tell the ad hoster to pull the ad and how to recognize scam ads in the future. He may be hosting other ads with redirect numbers.

... ni los estafadores heredarán el reino de Dios. 1 Cor. 6:10
by Bryon Williams Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:25 am
Hello alaintarn,

I am sorry you lost money. You will not get your money back from these thieves.

Please stop communicating with them. Also be aware that these scammers will contact you again with a different email address and new scam. Possibly with a scam to recover your losses with new fees through Western Union or Money Gram.

I have reported the fake website http://www.t2altd.page.tl .

Fake:
Company Name:T2A LTD
Registered No: 07635909
Address: UNIT 36 88-90 HATTON GARDEN, LONDON,
LONDON,
EC1N 8PN
UNITED KINGDOM

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by alaintarn Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:27 pm
Hi,
This company exists in UK, she is registred but the call number and all the adresses are false.
I have their IP adress, they are really in South Africa but the geolocation of this IP is different :
whatismyipaddress.com/ip/41.26.53.246
by Bryon Williams Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:53 pm
Hi alaintarn,

The ip you posted comes back to Johannesburg, South Africa.

ipTRACKERonline.com wrote:Header Analysis Quick Report
Originating IP: 41.26.53.246
Originating ISP: Vodacom
City: Johannesburg
Country of Origin: South Africa
* For a complete report on this email header goto ipTRACKERonline


I have been informed that the website has been shut down.

Please read this link about how scammers will use business information for the sole purpose of stealing your money.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10753&view=unread#unread

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