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by Bailey29 Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:02 pm
Hi there,

I believe that I have been scammed on a dating website.... http://www.fishdating.co.uk.

Email address he uses is [email protected] - I have put this email address on Google but nothing comes up other than an 'emailfinder.com' web address where you have to pay to find out if they are who they say they are!

He has advised that he is currently based in Kabul on deployment for 8 months as a US Intelligence Officer not due home until March 2010.

Many thanks

Bailey
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by The Enchantress Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:23 pm
Welcome to Scamwarners Bailey.

Scammers change mail addresses and names often to escape detection.

There are many scammers "pretending/lying" about being servicemen.

These guides may help you to discover whether you are in contact with a scammer.

http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3607

http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=25

Could you please post more details - early mails?

http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3561

If you prefer to use PM or mails I will help you all I can.

Please also post any questions or concerns - a support team member will gladly assist you.

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by Arnold Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:01 pm
I think there may be more scammers pretending to be US military than the real ones actually serving in Afghanistan.
His email headers should tell us where he actually is. If you can tell us which email provider you use, we can tell you how to display them.

by Bailey29 Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:00 am
Hi,

I use Hotmail as my email provider.

Thank you so much for your help with this.

Below is the email he sent me in October 2009:

First of all, let me start by commenting on how kind and polite you are. I really like when women are polite and kind. In turn, I always try to be respectful to my partner and not take them for granted. It takes so little effort to show respect and gratitude and yet I find it will reward me many times over if I do, I'm very sorry if am too forward or blunt.

As you might have known I am on deployment to Afghanistan and hoping to be home soon. I have been in the military for about 16 years now my first military job as part of military intelligence was to track the enemies on the battlefield, enter the movements in a database and get this critical information to the command, wasn't funny at all lol ......

I grew up in a small town in IL and was the eldest in a family of 2. We lived in a small land area, but my late dad worked for the State of IL for income. My late mom was a full time mom. We didn't have a lot of money, but we had a garden and cows so we were never hungry.

Growing up, there were always lots of visitors in our house. i am 10 years older than my younger sister, she died some years back in an accident.We tried all we could but all efforts were in vain to rescue her life,so sad i must say.
There are lots of good memories, but also some hard and sad ones. For instance, loosing my families, It was very very hard. I can't say I've ever "accepted" that i could lost my younger sister. But I've all learned to go on with my life which seems equally tragic. I really wanted the world to come to a standstill when she died.

We were the "Eagle Eye" of the family and were very close. Her child have had to grow up knowing her mother as a good woman, now on different paths.

I have a son his name is Tony,he is back in States with his grandma, I lost Tony's mom when she felt sick and died of cancer of the breast,though i was on deployment to Germany then but I came home to take care of her but unfortunately she didn't respond to treatment and died all of the sudden,this constituted a major sorrow to my heart and our only son was asked to settle down with his mother's family until I got retired with a good wife for us to spend the rest of our life together.

I want someone serious , caring and honest,... what do you actually want for us to have the best long term relationship? probably marriage? Happy home ? Love takes many things: trust, hope, wishes, dreams, and everything you've got, even when you know it's not going be enough, i am a man who knows what it takes to make a woman happy and I trust my romantic instincts. If I am seriously drawn to someone, I don't care about traditional matching characteristics (like a certain age or financial status). I go for it!

I guess I want to have some fun, spend time getting to know someone really well before I can offer much more. I like friends to be genuine, sincere, free spirited, caring and loyal. I don't like people who are not tolerance of others and their lifestyles. I like to spend my free time going on holidays or walking along the beach (knees permitting!), I love eating out, I love food from all over the world, I love live music and gigs, cinema, theater, coffee shops, people watching, shopping, watching footies and bars, noisy nights out with friends,oh and I love Australian Red Wine or Vodka and coke

This has been a very long message and I apologize if it's boring

Hugs ...Kisses Love .!!

Dave Bruner.
by Arnold Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:13 am
Click on the message in the list with the right mouse button.
Select View source from the menu.
If you can copy and paste it down as far as the actual message (less your email address), we should be able to tell you were he really is.

by Dotti Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:09 am
As Arnold indicated, for your benefit and practice, do check the headers.

But in this particular case, I can tell you without the headers this is a scam.

For starters, the typical elements of the scam setup are here--alone in the world, single father, lots of tragedy in life, doesn't care about age or income, already romantic in initial email...


If the author claims to be from an English-speaking country, one of the first things I look at is the writing. Is it consistent with who/where the person claims to be? I am not expecting perfect grammar or spelling--but are the types of errors made consistent with someone who was born and raised in the country they claim, or are they more consistent with someone who does not really know the language? Is the writing style consistent throughout the email, or are there distinct variations in style and/or grasp of the language?

This person claims to be an American in the military. The English is not consistent with the claim. Here are just a few of many examples.
As you might have known is a tense error and is a strange error for an American to make. It is, however, very consistent with an African, as tenses are one of the most difficult aspects for them to learn.
was the eldest in a family of 2 This statement is definitely not consistent with an American. Besides the tense confusion again, when is the last time you heard or saw an American use the word "eldest"? There are other examples throughout the email of phrases not consistent with American English (authors who don't know English well often mix up American and British terms.) A few other mistakes of the same kind: cinema, cancer of the breast, going on holidays.
We lived in a small land area Not sure what this is supposed to mean, but definitely not consistent with an American.
my late dad worked for the State of IL for income. Africans also have difficulty grasping capitalization rules, and tend to frequently miss the pronoun "i" while inappropriately capitalizing other words, especially job titles and random nouns like state. Also, the verbiage is once again suspicious. While not impossible, "my late dad" is pretty improbable phrasing. The word "late" is rarely used in casual communication--and someone who uses it will have a more formal writing style--he/she would be much more likely to use "father" and "mother" rather than "dad" and "mom." An American would have left off the last 2 words in the sentence, too.

There are a couple of places where the English is distinctly better, suggesting a cut and paste--so I like to google some of those areas to confirm. Check out some results here:

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22I+always+try+to+be+respectful+to+my+partner+and+not+take+them+for+granted.%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22I+don%27t+care+about+traditional+matching+characteristics%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Assuming you are still in contact with this scammer, the best thing you can do now is cut off contact. Do not answer his emails or any chat requests. If you are already in phone contact, don't take his calls, or better yet, block his number. Do not tell him you know he is a scammer, and do not point out these or any other errors that help to give him away. If you do so, he will improve his format so he does a better job of fooling his next potential victim. We never want to help scammers to improve their scams.

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