Has someone offered you a huge sum of money or a valuable consignment? It's a 419 or advance fee fraud - find out how they work, and what to do to be safe.
by anaalfabet Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:21 am
Sorry for my English, I have an older "outside Englishman" ..
I am writing for advice, do not know myself to figure out how they want to deceive me now? It is a large sum of money, before it was obvious - demanded large enough to pay the fees in advance .. I'm also a bit of bluffing with fake documents and SCREEN payment orders, of course, also from the fake account .. Then I excuse the fact that a government agency stopped my payment as suspicious .. I then got invited to the USA, where I again pay in advance, but should be in person .. When I wrote then that I just end up on the ticket and hotel, When I wrote then, I have money just so for ticket and hotel, a contact "friend" came up after a short period with a new method of getting funds (of course we would share the funds) and such that they are somewhere in a foreign country will be brought cash UN diplomat, as diplomatic cargo, he surprisingly no longer need upfront, just so I will confirme that I have the right beneficiary package using my passport and that the diplomatic consignment he will transfer to my country and handed it to me ..

I am still braking my head, as they want to fool me? It's too nice to be true .. I do not know either they want me just "as a punishment" to elicit away somewhere while they just laugh to me, or somethow else threaten, I do not know, whether they need would to verify the by some "white horse" that contraband and then I'll be uncomfortable for them? And end of this world for me .. :-)?


I ask you to react quickly to these words of mine, because I am just an ordinary greedy man, what muddle through life, although honestly, but always hard and there is little hope that it could be at least somewhat true, given the fact you have a lot of labor and time (it's some kind of dead bank account)


Thank you and goodbye in a better world
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by vonpaso xlura Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:27 am
If you would express yourself in another language, please do so! I can't quite make sense of your English, but I can tell it sounds like a scam.

Unless you work for the government, a diplomat carrying diplomatic cargo would not have anything to do with you. "Diplomatic cargo" and "beneficiary" add up to scam. Scammers make up lies in order to steal money. What they say about diplomats has no relation to what real diplomats do.

... ni los estafadores heredarán el reino de Dios. 1 Cor. 6:10
by anaalfabet Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:48 pm
Dear Sir,
I'm sorry, I know a little English, this creates a google translator ..
I, of course, from the beginning, sure that it is a scam .. I just totally surprised they could get that convinced me that I got somewhere (only 3,000 miles) and there may come a diplomat (probably quasi-diplomat) and will deal with me on receipt of my "family treasure consignment" .. And there is no need to pay anything in advance, it is an agreement .. Probably no one will come, or is it another scam .. But my question is directed towards what would the scammers could get? I have no reason to delete, why not invite me somewhere .. Theoretically, for once in 100 years can become a miracle, is not it? Once again, sorry for my "english", but I can not find another translator ..
Thank you
by Bryon Williams Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:21 pm
There is not Diplomat that will give you money. Do not travel anywhere. Either you will pay an advance fee for fake money. When you travel to meet the Fake Diplomat the scammer may kidnap you, steal from you or worse.

Nie je Diplomat, ktorý vám dá peniaze. Nepoužívajte kamko?vek. Bu? zaplatíte vopred poplatok za falošnými peniazmi. Pri ceste k splneniu Fake Diplomat podvodník môže unies?, kradnú? od vás alebo horšie.

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by Dotti Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:55 pm
Often they tell you that you will not have to pay money in advance. They do this to make themselves seem more legitimate.

But then, a few days later, you will get a phone call or an email. They will tell you that the diplomat has been stopped (maybe even arrested) and the package is stuck in customs somewhere. Then, you will be told that you need to make a payment now in order to get your package. Of course you could pay and pay, and in the end you will get no package.

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by anaalfabet Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:44 am
Is it possible, or likely to be so as a colleague "Dotti" wrote.
So far, they definitely know that I am not willing to pay anything in advance, do you think they want to try so that they meet with me somewhere to look legit? I do not know why they did it again, I have been, therefore, on a trip in London, UK and even so I did not pay .. Diplomat proposed meeting in my hotel (even he does not know which it is), so it will probably be ok, what refers to any physical threat.

Thank you all
by vonpaso xlura Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:16 am
There is no diplomat. There is no large sum of money. There is only a scammer, probably in Africa. If you try to meet him, you may be robbed, or killed, or worse. Do not try to meet him.

Please post the emails from the scammer, including headers, as other victims may be searching for phrases or email addresses.

And again: please use your own language, or any language you can write in without translating through a computer.

... ni los estafadores heredarán el reino de Dios. 1 Cor. 6:10
by anaalfabet Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:55 am
Here are some last posts from him:

Dear friend,

Good to your weekend was good and to know that your ready to go to Cairo which is definitely 100% useful and profitable for both parties.

I want you to know that there will be no problem provided you follow the instructions of the diplomat who knows he is making a family treasure delivery to you as the beneficiary in Cairo and all you need to do is keep your mobile number open as he would call anytime later today once he arrives Egypt based on your meeting by wednesday.

Listen at this point you need to be very confidential to avoid any other person knowing about this,because you never can trust people like you said people are envious in this world today,so please my friend be careful even your friend you want to use his security company,you have t be very careful by friend not to tell anyone about our deal till we are done 100% ie having the funds with you successfully in your country bank account.

Keep me posted and make sure call me once you are contacted by the diplomat and also call me when you meet with him in Cairo.

Good luck and all the best my friend.
Peter.

Dear friend,
>>
>>What I meant about consignment in your custody is that the consignment
>> would be in you care omce everything goes as planned OK.
>>
>>YES, the diplomat will be of assistance of moving the consignment out of
>> Egypt once it has been confirmed and certisfied by him that you are the
>> beneficiary which that is not a problem because you are and you have a
>> means of Identification to Identify that you are Mr............
>>
>>Please explain what cost are you talking about here again I dont understand
>> you mentioning about diplomat to pay cost, please what "COST".
>>
>>Every other arrangement is correct all you need to do is book your flight
>> as you stated and the diplomat would contact you once he arrives Egypt and
>> make sure your phone is open in order to make proper arrangement where to
>> meet to finalize this deal.
>>Thanks.
>>Peter.

Dear Friend,
>>>
>>>Very simple I explained before he would be leaving on Monday as for the
>>> meeting place he has your details and would call you before you leave for
>>> Cairo and let you know the exact place.
>>>
>>>This is no phrase I believe simple and direct and as for the way for move
>>> the consignment out from Egypt you gave your suggestion of using your
>>> friends secrete security service,but the most important is having the
>>> consignment in your custody moving it to your countrySlovakia would be a secondary
>>> issue which will never be a problem as I presume.
>>>
>>>That is all you need to know to finalize this deal and also your means of
>>> Identification which your Passport would stand for that as the
>>> beneficiary of the consignment.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Peter.

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by vonpaso xlura Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:31 pm
He's in South Africa, not Egypt, as both his email address and his IP address show. And his writing style is not that of someone as well educated as a diplomat.

Just ignore anything he says from now on.

... ni los estafadores heredarán el reino de Dios. 1 Cor. 6:10
by Bryon Williams Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:33 pm
The header of the email post shows it was written in South Africa. The writing is of someone not familiar with English writing. 100% scam

[email protected]
41.114.1.204

Originating IP: 41.114.1.204
Originating ISP: Mtn Sa
City: Glenvista
Country of Origin: South Africa

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by anaalfabet Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:42 pm
Thank you, friends, for your posts..
Certainly I knew it, that that guy is from South Africa.. He started our conversation with this, he is banker from S.A. and he appeared dead account, on which we would be two of us to share .. It has always been clear and I can also check the IP address .. Now will be meeting in Egypt with some of his known UN diplomats, there I will confirm that I am the right beneficiary of the treasure and the world will be perfect for us ..

I know, sorry, I'm a dreamer, but I've never been in Cairo, I have a booking of a beautiful floating hotel and if I this successfully survive, I'll let you know .. If not, hello in better times
Yours friend
by vonpaso xlura Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:49 pm
He is not a banker any more than he's a diplomat. Only in the minds of scammers do bankers need the help of random strangers on the Internet to move dead accounts, bankers have anything to do with diplomatic cargo, or diplomatic cargo get stuck in customs.

If you travel to meet a scammer, any of the following could occur:
*He doesn't show up and it's all a waste.
*You are shown fake black money and told you need fictitious chemicals to clean it.
*He takes more of your money.
*You are killed.
You will not profit at all from traveling to meet a scammer. Don't do it.

... ni los estafadores heredarán el reino de Dios. 1 Cor. 6:10
by Bryon Williams Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:20 pm
This is 100% scam. This email was sent to me.

[email protected]
27735056413
Peter Hayman

Originating IP: 41.113.255.232
Originating ISP: Mtn Sa
City: Randfontein
Country of Origin: South Africa

Dear Me,

First, I must insist on your confidence in this transaction. I made this contact with you based on reliable information available to me courtesy of an agency that helps seek people by their contact, and confirmed by local chambers of commerce and industry concerning your reputation. Thus I am convinced you would be capable to provide me with a solution to a money transfer transaction of US$22,00,000.00(Twenty Two Million United States Dollars.

In 2010, Mr Uwe was murdered in South Africa after a brief business meeting but unknown mob Due to his untimely death in 2010, the funds have been sitting in the account ever since and will continue to do so perpetually unless we do something about it. This is where you come in. Mr Uwe Gamballa did not declare any next of kin in his official papers including the paper work of his bank deposit. Against this backdrop, my suggestion to you is that I would like you as a foreigner to stand as the next of kin to Mr Uwe Gemballa so that you will be able to receive his funds. I want you to know that I have had everything planned out so that we can come out successful. I have contacted an attorney that will prepare the necessary document that will back you up as the next of kin to my client.

All that is required from you at this stage is for you to provide me with your present home address, phone and fax numbers, a copy of your identification (most preferably your driver's license or travelers passport) and a brief background profile of your self so that the attorney can commence his job.

After you have been made the next of kin, the attorney will also file in for claims on your behalf and secure the necessary approval and letter of probate in your favor for the move of the funds to an account that will be provided by you. There is no risk involved at all in the matter as we are going adopt a legalized method and the attorney will prepare all the necessary documents. The allocation of our money will be as follows: 40 %( $22m) to you for your part in this, 55% for me and 5% for any unforeseeable expenses we may incur.


I think this is extremely fair, as you have nothing to lose but just a little time, while on the other hand I am staking my flawless reputation among other things. And besides $22 million is no pocket change. Once you are approved, the entire transaction should take no longer than twelve business days after which we will go about our daily business, but just millions of dollars richer.

As you can see this is easier than taking candy from a baby, but mind you, trust is something that is developed over time and that is something that we do not have. So I have to let you know that it will highly unfeasible to try to run away with the money because even though only you can transfer money in and out of your account, my department of which I happen to be the head can only authorize the transfer. The money will be transferred from my bank to an account you will provide. So please, there should be no room for greed because ten million two hundred thousand dollars can quench even the most insatiable desire for the almighty dollar.

Furthermore, if you follow up this transaction diligently it would be completed within 7 working days.What I expect from you is trust and commitment; I want this large sum of money transferred with your assistance.I want to know if you are willing to follow up this business seriously before I can give you more details about this transaction, I shall be waiting for your response and assurance along with your contact details,mailing address,occupation for better explanation on the procedures.

You can reach me on my direct line: +27-7350-56413

Mr.Peter Hayman

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by anaalfabet Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:44 am
To Bryon Wiliams:

When did you receive this email from South africa?

Thanks
by Bryon Williams Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:25 am
^^^ I received it June 18, 2013

Received: from [41.113.255.232] by web173004.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Jun 2013
From: Peter Hayman <[email protected]>
Reply-To: Peter Hayman <[email protected]>
Subject: Further Detailss From Peter Hayman
To: Me


Location Newlands, Western Cape, South Africa
(41¸113¸255¸232:56677)
Language of recipient's PC: en-ZA (English/South Africa)
Browser used by recipient: Moz/4.0 (MSIE 7.0; WinNT 6.1; Trident/5.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; InfoPath.2; .NET4.0C; MATM)


It is a scam. The scammer/thief tells everyone he has 22 million dollars to give away.

Bryon

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