Father scammed on moneypak loan scam needs help

Over the holidays my father got put through the ringer with the green dot monypak scam. They stole 2700 in mony PAC cards and with the promis of a 5000 loan. And the possibility of a 30,000 dollar loan ,My father is older and disabled needed some fast cash and fell for it, by the time I found out what was going on the damage was done. It's all finally came to a head over the last week after I researched the enough to convince him he can't win with these guys. So one day I here him talking on the phone with the " bank" I had had enough and stepped in and told the lad on the phone I was tracking him through Tor and new his ip ( I didn't) but it struck a cord and the next call he got was from the head of the "bank" Florida credit union but the calls we're coming from Jamaica this man however I believe is in the us he calls him self Mr. Angel Banks...... he says that it was rouge employes and that he runs a legitimate business all these men had heavy accents that they were obvisoly trying to hide,but had English names anyways mr. Banks actuly transfers the money into my dad's account on Saturday so my dad waits to see if the funds are available ....believe it or not he got his money back Im not sure how cause it was defiantly a scam but maby he thought he could scam him for more with the 30,000 dollers being offers I told my dad this last night that as soon as the funds were avalible withdrawal it and call Le and never talke to angel banks again ,he called Le they want him to keep playing along with mr. Banks so they can track him and the other lads down I'm really worried as they have our home address and his social seacurtiy number and credit card info any advice would help a lot right now as I feel sum what alone in this and my dads just not doing his homework ( he has done no research at all ) which scares me because I did not think he was that gullible but I honestly think these guys could have sold him a bridge. Thankyou for reading

Unfortunately, the Jamaican scammers are particularly aggressive, and once they get hold of someone, they are not going to let go easily.

You are right in that they do not return victims' money. If they did transfer money into his account, the scammers think they have a chance to get a lot more money out of him. It is also important to realize that the money is very possibly stolen--scammers will often buy phished account information, and then empty out these innocent victims' accounts. If the money transferred into your father's account was stolen from a phished account, the transfer could be reversed, or worse yet, your father could end up receiving a visit from the police.

I am a bit concerned about your statement that LE told your father to play along. LE standard policy does NOT include using civilians in this manner, and they would NEVER recruit civilians who are vulnerable and can reasonably be expected to be pulled back into the scam.

On the other hand, I have seen scammers posing as LE before who HAVE told victims that they can help by playing along and sending money, supposedly so they can arrest the scammer when he picks up or spends the money. I have also seen victims who have claimed they were working with LE, often with the encouragement of the scammers, as a way of getting friends and family members off their backs. This usually occurs when the victim still secretly believes in the scammers.

If I were you, I would get the information on his supposed LE contacts and check them out for yourself. In the unlikely case that they really turn out to be legitimate LE (e.g., less trained personnel from the local police) I would have a discussion with them about keeping a vulnerable citizen in contact with the scammers.

I would also recommend the following:
-contact the credit agencies and have a fraud alert placed on his credit file.
-contact his bank and let them know his account has been compromised.
-if they continue to call, consider changing his phone number (and making it unlisted). These scammers can be very persuasive, and can be relentless with the phone calls. They have even been known to look up neighbor's phone numbers and call them, demanding they go to the victim's house and put him/her on the phone.
-If he is also in email contact with them, change his email address.
-see if you can block Jamaican calls (incoming and/or outgoing) from his phones.

Thankyou for your reply Dottie, what you said about him working with Le to get family off there back hit home, I haven't seen the police here at all and he's been acting so strange.im worried that this man mr. Angel banks can get my dad into trouble. I' want to go report it myself I have the bank routing numbers he received from mr. Banks ... but he's my father and I don't want too "rat" him out. I know he's desperate for money and really vulnerable right now . It scares me, cause he's trying to create a business and get back to work I've never seen him so motivated. He has had chronic pain since he was my age. And after a colon cleanse changing his diet and lots of swimming and yoga he has more energy then me and my fiancé' put together and the pain is gone. it makes me so angry that these lads can do this to people. And I'm having a hard time explaining how much damage these people could do. I'll show him your post cause he won't research it himself even though I askd him to spend an hour researching money pack scams Again thank you for your advice Dotti i really needed to talk to someone about this. Just writing about it helps so much. I've been holding all this in since December when it all started and am very great full that this forum exists. If any body els has any has any info on these breed of scammers please post I feel like i need to talk to someone who's been through this,as talking with my family who don't know anything about these scams just feeds the stress fire that these lads created. I want them shut down so they can't hurt anyone els . Thank you for giving me a space to express these complicated emotions and providing much needed information. much love thank you everyone.

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I haven't seen the police here at all and he's been acting so strange.im worried that this man mr. Angel banks can get my dad into trouble. I' want to go report it myself I have the bank routing numbers he received from mr. Banks ... but he's my father and I don't want too "rat" him out.

Scammers never refund victims with their own money. I'm afraid to say that either your father is not being honest when he says he has had a refund (many victims become so immersed in the scam that they lie to friends and family) or as Dotti said, the money has come from another victim or a compromised bank account.

If the latter is the case then you going to the authorities will not be ratting you father out, you'll be doing him a favour. When the stolen money is discovered, it will be your father who is at the end of the investigative trail and there have unfortunately been occurences of victims being charged for receiving the money (particularly if he is persuaded to forward the money on somewhere).

Some more good reading:

http://www.bbb.org/blog/2013/08/bbb-warns-of-ongoing-jamaican-phone-scams/
http://www.badcreditloans.com/scams/scam-alert-jamaican-phone-scam/
http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0078-advance-fee-loans

Thank you thank you reading this to my father helped a lot ....y'all were right Le contacts were bullshit..... Taking advice stated above the folks at scambaiters. Were right you are angels