Delinquent Money Collection Scam

Welcome to scamwarners lwmosher. Thank You for posting this information on this scammer.

It will alert and save others form being scammed. Well Done

This UK - redirect number +44 703 199 0751 used in this scammers mail is posted here;

http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=12929&sid=da1f8fd90d03dc01cc90ddee674bfcd1#p12929

And here http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=13660#p13660

Though this is definitely a scam it is interesting to note that the contact number +82-7076787520 leads to a website created only last month http://lsgenerators.com/contactus.html This website has only been registered for one year which, quite often can be a strong indicator of having been set up by a scammer. It would be very unusual for a scammer to include a contact number from a legitimate company in his scam script. But the scammer in this case is using yahoo and sify free email services and the email was sent from Nigeria. I will ask our site killers to take a close look at this one.

Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from 41.211.229.224 <- IP points to Nigeria.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 23:52:17 +0800 (PHT)
Subject: Attorney Needed
From: "Ls Generator COMPANY LTD" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: undisclosed-recipients:; <- Sent to hidden email addresses



Attention: Counsel

We the management of Ls Generator Company Ltd of South Korea, require your
legal representation for our North American Customers.

We are of the opinion that the ability to consolidate payments from North
America will eradicate delays due to inter-continental monetary
transaction between Asia and North America.

We understand that a proper Attorney Client Retainer will provide the
necessary authorization and we are most inclined to commence talks as soon
as possible.

Your consideration of our request is highly anticipated and we look
forward to your prompt response request.

Sincerely,
Chu Fung
Ls Generator Company Ltd
576, Yongsan-Dong, Yuseong-Ku,
Daejeon, Korea (South) 305-500
Telifax: +82-7076787520
Email Addresses:[email protected]
Telifax: +82-7076787520

I just received a similar one. I practice law in Florida. The alleged debtor corporation in Ft. Lauderdale is a legitimate manufacturing company as is the alleged collector- "CNOOC" China's largest offshore oil producer. Out of curiosity I responded but they kept insisting on receiving my retainer agreement before their "board meeting". Here is the initial email:

Good Day

I wish to retain an attorney that will assist my company in collecting funds that are owed to the company. My company has been in business for over 5 years and we have not experienced any failure in business relationship like the one which we come to you with. We happen to sell a product, shipped and accounted for by our company and the purchaser, and the products were supposed to be paid for by now. It has been over 5 months and we have not received payment or notification of re-adjustment in estimated time of payment. We urge for our products to be paid for as soon as possible. We feel that the assistance of an attorney will show and prove that we are very serious about the matter and hope it will lead to a resolution and funds collected appropriately. We have all the documents supporting the case and we are ready to present it if we happen to go before the court of law to settle this matter. Please advice on your fees and retainer agreement and any other information that you would be needing to assess the case. Again, I wish to emphasize the urgency of the case and urge you to take an earnest attitude towards the case and I hope we maintain a stable business relationship.

Thank you and I await your prompt response.

Cheng Wiliam Chi


I responded to the email requesting that they call my office to discuss. So this is the second email from them:
Thank you for your earnest response. Let me start by introducing the company i represent. CNOOC is registered with a capital of RMB 94.9 billion and has 51,000 employees. It Operates, manages and oversees the delegated state-owned assets and bears corresponding value increment responsibilities. CNOOC has realized fast and quality growth over the past twenty five years. The year 2007 saw it achieving a sales income of RMB 160.0 billion and a net profit of RMB 56.5 billion, meanwhile paying a tax of RMB 35.0 billion to the state amounting to more than 60% of the total profit. The total and net assets of CNOOC have reached RMB 300.0 billion and RMB 170.0 billion respectively. After relieving itself from the heavy production loss incurred by the violent typhoons while at the same time ensuring safety in all operations, CNOOC produced a total of 40.46 million tons of oil and gas in 2007. It has been one of the top key state-owned enterprises (SOEs) in China in terms of operating results over the past three consecutive years.

We request your representation to counsel us in litigation and enable us collect a debt owed to us by a delinquent customer.

We do appreciate your time in reviewing our request and we will do everything possible to insure a smooth and hitch free business relationship. We are ready to work with you to achieve our goal as the importance of your services cannot be over emphasized.

We understand the importance of retaining your services accordingly and we will provide all necessary documentation and information in that regard. We understand your request for more information and we will not relent in providing information as they deem necessary.

We are of the opinion that once our presence is established in your state via a legal representative our customer will have no option but comply with payment request and accompanied with legal action and litigation will push for the accounts to be paid attention to effectively.

We got your contact information from the online lawyers Directory as a result of our search for reliable firm or individual to provide legal services as requested.

We believe that a normal scenario will require a phone call or demand letter from you to our delinquent seller if your services is retained. Although we believed that litigation should be applied as a last resort as we intend to preserve the relationship we have with our customer, since payment is not made, we think otherwise. Though, we do hope not to resort to litigation unless all other options are exhausted but we will like the comfort of knowing that the option is available and letting our customer know that litigation may be enforced if the option becomes necessary.

We understand the concept of running a conflict check that is why we are providing our delinquent customer located in your state for your conflict check and to enable you present to us your retainer agreement for your services.

Paul Bennett
Gribetz International Inc
13800 Nw 4th St, Fort Lauderdale, FL 33325-6207
This particular customer owes approx. $700,000.00 and the payment is overdue as our regular purchase agreement requires customer to effect payment not later than 30 days upon delivery or legal action may be enforced if payment delay exceeds 90 days. delivery for this customer was made in April of 2009 and our calculation shows that delivery is about Five Months late.
All the necessary information we have given to you is what we can offer for now, once we receive a standard retainer from your firm, my company will go through the agreement and we will get back to you within the next couples of days, and if we are satisfied with whatever we see, i will provide you with more documentations regarding our debtor, and also give your firm a call at my earliest convenience, i await your urgent reply. wil

It will be very helpful if we receive your standard retainer agreement before noon on Friday your time. This will enable our board decide on the conditions of the retainer in our next board meeting.

We thank you for your business as we look forward to your prompt response.

Very Respectfully,

Mr Cheng Chi.
China National Offshore Oil Corporation.
www.cnooc.com.cn

Note: I am presently in the United Kingdom for now and you can call me on my mobile at +44-702-401-8580. I will be expecting your call.
Here is the third and final email from them:
All the necessary information we have given to you is what we can offer for now, once we receive a standard retainer from your firm, my company will go through the agreement and we will get back to you within the next couples of days, and if we are satisfied with whatever we see, i will provide you with more documentations regarding our debtor, and also give your firm a call at my earliest convenience, i await your urgent reply
Each email came from this email address: [email protected]

It's been mentioned before, but these scammers often target law firms with a debtor company in their state or jurisdiction. They do the homework to make these scams work. Please look up these companies and contact them directly and don't rely on contact information sent to you in an email.

If a website is involved and you have any questions, either research the firm from a reliable source or post the website here and we will check it out. These scammers are getting better all the time and know what works.

Another example of this seemingly endless onslaught of scams targeting the legal fraternity.

Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: by 10.223.24.87
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:18:31 +0200
Subject: Breach of contract
From: billy yu <[email protected]>


Dear Sir,

We are a financial consultancy company based in Hong Kong representing a Hong Kong Firm ,our client has informed us to look for legal representation for him due to the fact that there was a breach of contract in the purchase of D2 Spot of 250,000/MT ,Due to the Excuses for non-performance by the seller stated in the contract signed by Both parties had agreed to carry out their corresponding obligations under the terms of this SPA completely and satisfactorily to both parties. If one party fails to perform its duties while the other party does complete its obligations at the time of the failure occurs, the performed party is entitled to a 1% of the total contract value as compensation for its liquidated damage plus legal costs (if any) within 72 hours after a written request to pay for the damage.
Upon acceptance of this case we shall be requiring your service as the company involved is an American base company .My Client is ready to take legal actions against the seller but i advised him to settle outside the court so if you take this case i will like you to inform the seller that you are representing my client and he is ready to settle outside the court if he does so he will only has to pay half of the actual total amount asking and including your legal fees if you accept the case that is .
We look forward to your prompt response .

Yours Faithfully,

Billy Yu

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This guy actually called me today. I am an attorney in Indianapolis, Indiana. He was very, very difficult to understand, but I told him to send me the documentation/invoices/ledgers of the accounts he wanted me to collect. He actually attached an invoice and a proforma. He's been contacting me by e-mail since July, and even then I had a weird feeling about him. Anyway, I told him that I could not represent him because the accounts are allegedly owed by a company in Pennsylvania, and he is in England. I told him he'd need an attorney in Pennsylvania and he insisted that I just send an e-mail or call this company on his behalf about the debt. I told him I couldn't do anything until I had a retainer in place. He said he would give me 10% of the invoice once collected and I told him that is not how I practice, so he asked me to send the retainer agreement and he'd see what he could do. I did some research on his company (which is out of China) and the company he wanted to collect against, and both are legitimate companies. However, Hangzhou does not have a branch in England (and this guy didn't sound like he was from England). Another thing that made me suspicous is when I looked up the company, it is a billion dollar company, why don't they have attorneys to take care of this kind of thing and why did he have a problem with my measly retainer request? So, I started digging around and found this site.

Below is the first e-mail he sent me.

On Jul 17, 2009, at 11:10 AM, [email protected] wrote:

> name: Badadare Ganpatrao
> email: [email protected]
> phone:
> comment: Branch office:
> 37-45 Crest Road, Stone Chair,
> Shelf, Halifax HX5 7LN
> +447031935147
> England.
>
> Dear Counsel,
>
> This is an official request for legal representation on behalf of Hangzhou Iron & Steel Group Company. We are iron and steel company with principal business in steel manufacturing and trading.
>
> We are presently incapacitated due to international legal boundaries to exert pressure on our delinquent customers and we request for your services accordingly. We got your contact information from the Online Lawyers Directory as a result of our search for a reliable firm or individual to provide legal services as requested.
>
> After a careful review of your profile as well as your qualification and experience, we are of the opinion that you are capable and qualified to provide the legal services as requested.
>
> On behalf of Hangzhou Iron & Steel Group Company, Please accept my sincerest appreciation in advance for your willingness to render your services as we look forward to your prompt response to our request.
>
> Thank you.
> Mr. BADADARE .U.
> Branch manager,
> Hangzhou Iron & Steel Group Company
> England office.
>

Hi dlcurry. Thanks for the additional information. It may help to prevent others from being taken in by this scam. With every new post here, the underhanded techniques of these criminals becomes more apparent. Obviously you've been deprived of you time by this scammer but at least you haven't lost any money.

[AlanJones]

Here's one I received in my catcher account

Received From: Eric Lee <[email protected]>
Subject: CAN YOU DELIVER

Dear Counsel.

I am sending this email as a mutual introduction.
Mr Eric Lee is the Managing Director of Cheung Sung Holdings Inc. and they are one of the largest developers of residential, office, retail, industrial and hotel properties in Hong Kong. Cheung Sung Holdings is owed payment by a customer here in the US in February 2009. I cannot handle this matter at this time because I will be going for a surgery operation. I have represented this company in the past. This matter is in your jurisdiction. Please contact Mr. Eric Lee if you are interested in representing him. Below his is contact information as follows:

Eric Lee
Cheung Sung Holdings
11th Floor, Citicorp Centre,
18 Whitfield Road,
North Point, Hong Kong
Tel: 011-852-28060303
email:[email protected]

Should you have any questions please contact my legal
assistant, Mr. John Caswell
[email protected]

Sincerely,
William Robertson Esq.
A Professional Law Firm
2127 Espy Court, Suite 110
Crofton , Maryland 21114


The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or other action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients, any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing William Robertson Esq., client engagement letter.

This one looks particularly tricky, as it appears to have a spoof website that is one letter off from a real company's website. The real company may be dytooling. The scam is from dytoolling (two ll's).
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DY Tooling (HK) Co., Ltd
Shenzhen Factory:
D Building G District, Third Industrial Park, Gonghe Village Shajing Town,

Baoan District, Shenzhen, Guangdong Province China
Fax: +85-230-177486
[email protected]
Web: http://www.dytoolling.com

Dear Attorney.

I got your profile from the Attorney web-site

After a careful review of your profile as well as your qualification and
experience, it is logical to believe that you are capable and qualified in
assisting my company with its financial services as well as work us
through the modalities of setting up a subsidiary of our company in the
United States

My company DY Tooling (HK) Co., Ltd,specializes in exporting machinery
equipments, such as Cold Chamber Die-casting Machine, Injection Molding
Machine, Automatic Polishing Machine ,Skeleton Bucket, Hydraulic Press and
Other Accessory Equipments, Mould Trial Machine, and HARDBOX from Asia
into Europe, America and Australia and the global need for our goods has
given rise to a significant increase in our customer base worldwide.

To give you a better understanding of what your responsibilities will be
as my representative, it is important that you understand some
difficulties that I am faced with presently in receiving funds from
clients in America.

Firstly, most payments for equipments are drawn in checks and it takes
approximately two weeks for checks from other continents to clear with our
local banks. These delays mostly result in our late response to orders and
we sometimes loose clients to other suppliers.
Secondly, we experience high tariffs and foreign exchange charges as funds
will have to be converted by our banks to local currencies as they are
cleared with our banks and re converted to foreign currency as we place
orders for supplies from our international suppliers.

As you can see, the back and forth process of currency conversion, results
to high charges for foreign exchange thereby resulting to increase in cost
of doing business. But with your assistance as my representative, funds
that are to be used for supplies will be sent directly to you from my
clients thereby avoiding the intercontinental banking processing time
between Asia and America..

From my business experience, I have come to realize that every good
business reference starts with a satisfactory performance and I have
decided that it is better for us to prove to ourselves how efficient we
are.

We understand that a proper Attorney Client Retainer ship agreement will
provide the necessary authorization and we are most inclined to commence
talks as soon as possible I believe this is better than any recommendation
or references.

Please also let us know what your remuration will be. I do hope this is
acceptable to you. I do hope the terms of business are acceptable to you.
Upon receipt of your acceptance, I will update you on how we may proceed
On behalf of DY Tooling (HK) Co., Ltd, Please accept my sincerest
appreciation in advance for your willingness to render your services as we
look forward to your prompt response to my email.

Best Regards,

Mr.Tanaka Wong
President CEO

Hi Blzbub and welcome. Thank you for posting that email. We actually see scammers setting up fake websites to support their scams pretty often. The site included in that email was just registered a few months ago:

Created: 2009-06-24
Expires: 2010-06-24
Updated: 2009-08-25

We work closely with 419Eater.com and aa419.org to get the sites entered into a database of fraudulent sites and reported to their hosters (and shut down). I'll pass this information so the site will be investigated and taken care of.

The website has been investigated and entered into the database of fraudulent sites kept by aa419.org. The entry can be found here: http://db.aa419.org/fakebanksview.php?key=40056 A site killer will report it to the hoster soon, requesting suspension.

The below is the email I received yesterday. Very bad- they have now start to aimed firms and attorneys!
I replied one simple response with detail contact information, then I found many of your guys put warning on the board. Thank you very much guys! I really appreciate!-Philip


From: michael.blair [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:41 PM
To: undisclosed recipients:
Subject: Attention Counsel:


Top of the day to you Attorney,The management of Royale Generators Limited
requires your legal representation in Litigation and collection for our North
American delinquent Customers.In order to achieve these objectives a good and
reputable Attorney/Law firm will be required to handle this service in North
America for us to recover monies due to our organization by overseas
customers.Due to the urgency of this matter If you are in the position to
represent us at the moment kindly advice immediately.Once more thank you for
taking time from your busy Schedule to read this mail.
Sincerely,
Michael Blair
General Manager
ROYAL POWER LTD
West Bromwich, B71 1DG,
United Kingdom
Email : [email protected]
Phone :+44 703 199 0751
Fax : +44 870 479 9755

Hi Phiwan

Welcome to Scamwarners.

Glad that we have been able to help you to avoid being scammed.

2 very good indicators of a scam from what you have posted;

It is directed to "undisclosed recipients"
The phone number is a 4470 number, these numbers are UK redirect numbers, they are commonly used by scammers to appear that they are in the UK, in reality they can be set up by people from anywhere in the world and calls to them are redirected to the persons location regardless of where they are in the world.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask

Can anyone tell me if this is a scam? See below email.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 8:36 PM
Subject: COLLECTION

Sir/Madam:
We wish to retain your services to facilitate in the retrieval of delinquent accounts and holdings from our customers in United States. These accounts have been delinquent for a while, due to the current issues posed by the current economic status affecting business owners around the world, and we have been lenient enough to give a credit period of 3 months, which started in the month of November in the year, 2008, before requesting payments. We would like for the accounts to be mediated and closed before the end of the incoming quarter. We believe that all owed funds to our company will be made payable contingent upon acquiring the assistance of your office.
We would like to receive your retainer agreement, rates and all other essential material regarding your firm's compensation policies. These, and all other material,can be communicated true me at [email protected] for secretarial references.

Lin Yang
vice president.

Shanghai Bronco Electric Machinery Manufacturing Co., Ltd.
Add: No. 855 Yushu Road, Songjiang Hi-Technology Industrial Zone, Shanghai, China
Tel: 0086-21-57733456 0086-21-57734567
Fax: 0086-21-57734688 0086-21-57734777[/color]Http://www.cnbronco.com
E-mail: [email protected]

The GoDaddy email domain was registered today, and it fits every definition of a scam known to mankind, so I would say it is a scam. Thanks for posting this!

Please post or PM any emails you get from this domain with full headers so our site killers can get a chance to kill this.

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