Delinquent Money Collection Scam

Hi Olson

Welcome to Scamwarners

As Bill has mentioned it is a definate scam, you will see the opening line in many different scams posted here at Scamwarners as well as a couple of other sites Click Here

Please dont hesitate to ask if you have any questions

Hello,

Excellent forum! In regards to this scam, here is the IP information for where the e-mails are originating:

Location: (TH) Thailand, KRUNG THEP MAHA NAKHON BANGKOK, BANGKOK
Organization (ISP): - / TTGN INTERNATIONAL INTERNET GATEWAY THAILAND
(broadband): (114.128.118.41)

Regards.

Hi Secureintell

Welcome to Scamwarners
Thank you very much for this information, as it turns out you have been a great help by tieing this scammer with another who we have posted here. Well done

Google says the following is a fairly commonly used scam letter. Only the names have been changed to protect the guilty.
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Return-Path: <[email protected]>

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by nylon.richmond.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1)
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Subject: Attorney Advice
From: "Ken Williams ESQ" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Reply-To: [email protected]

Dear Counsel,

I am sending this email as a mutual introduction. Ms Liu Weimin is the
Managing Director of Shenzhen Aida Aluminum Alloys Co., Ltd.

Shenzhen Aida Aluminum Alloys Co., Ltd. Is a manufacturer and supplier of
steel, coils and transformers. Shenzhen Aida Aluminum Alloys Co., Ltd.
is owed payment on shipments that they made to customers here in the US,
Canada and
South America from June 2008. The company is now seeking advice and possible
representation in litigation against the non-paying companies in your
state. I can not handle this matter at this point because it is out of
our jurisdiction. I have represented this company in the past, therefore
I am assisting them in finding an attorney in the required state.

Kindly contact Ms Liu Weimin if you are interested in representing
them. Below is her contact information as follows:

Liu Weimin
Shenzhen Aida Aluminum Alloys Co., Ltd.
[email protected]

I encourage you to contact one another to see if this is a situation where
you can work
together. Should you have any questions please contact my office at the
below noted
information.

Sincerely,
Ken Williams
[email protected]

Thanks for that BLzbub. Here's another one that was forwarded to me.

-----Original Message-----
From: SUNRISE ENTERPRISES (UK) LIMITED.
[mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:21 AM
To: undisclosed-recipients
Subject: LEGAL COUNSEL NEEDED.

SUNRISE ENTERPRISES (UK) LIMITED
CUSTOM EXPORT MANUFACTURING

Dear Counsel:

Our Company is seeking your legal representation for our operations in
the United States.

We are of the opinion that a proper Attorney Client Retainer will help
enhance our business in the United States and to reach the goals we
anticipate.

Looking forward to your prompt response.

Sincerely,
Andrew Chapple
President / CEO
SUNRISE ENTERPRISES (UK) LIMITED
E-mail: [email protected]
Tel: +447024079957
115 Shaftesbury Avenue, London WC2H 8AD, United Kingdom.

These scammers are still evolving and have several new formats. One that has been showing up involves a "release bond" which may involve a fraudulent real estate purchase. The scammers pay by counterfeit check or a fraudulent wire transfer and the lawyer supposedly pays for the "release." I'm still trying to work out the details on this but if anyone has received anything like this please post it. I'll post later when I can sort things out better. If anyone has any thoughts on this, it would help.

Thanks to all who have helped.

Bill

The domain dytoollingonline.com indicated in this scam email has already been posted twice here and here.

Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from sargas.telkomsa.net (sargas.telkomsa.net [196.25.211.69])
Received: from mail3.telkomsa.net (zimbra3-vm1.lb2.telkomsa.net
[192.168.16.224]) <- IP points to South Africa
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009
From: DYTOOLLING CO <[email protected]>
Reply-To: DYTOOLLING CO <[email protected]>
To: undisclosed-recipients:;


Dear Attorney,

DYTOOLLING CO, HONGKONG is urgently in need of a collection Attorney in the
US that will assist us in the collection of our outstanding debts in some
parts of the US.

We have gone through your profile and think you might be able to assist us
in this area .

Details will be provided upon request. Please respond quickly as we want
this resolved urgently.

Sincerely Yours,
Raymond Chu
E-Mail : [email protected]
http://www.dytoolling.com
TEL : 010 845 21011
FAX ; +85 230-177486

The scammer has made an attempt to appear legitimate by piggybacking on a legitimate website http://www.wokeehong.com.hk The real Wo Kee Hong (Holdings) Ltd. has no connection to this scam. Any person truly representing Wo Kee Hong (Holdings) Ltd. would not be using a free gmail service to communicate. Also the scammer has never mentioned the name of the recipient of the email. This is because this message has been sent to a multitude of email addresses and the scammer is hoping that at least one victim will fall for his lies.

Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from athabascau.ca ([131.232.66.34]) <- IP belongs to the athabascau.ca domain- Canada
Received: from 41.213.18.58 (SquirrelMail authenticated user kkwasney) <- IP points to South Africa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009
From: Richard Lee <[email protected]>
Subject: Legal inquiry
To:
Reply-to: [email protected]


Wo Kee Hong (Holdings) Ltd
10/F Blk A Wo Kee Hong Bldg
585-609 Castle Peak Rd Kwai Chung
NT Hong Kong
Tel : ( 852) 2514 4700
Fax : ( 852) 2526 1067
Web:www.wokeehong.com.hk


Attention Counsel

Request for Legal assistance.

This is an official request for legal representation on behalf of Wo Kee
Hong (Holdings) Ltd. Our Company's principal activity is to sell and
develop electronic components and other peripheral equipment. The
Electronic parts division deals in semiconductors and EMS for personal
computers, and general electronic parts. The Information equipment
division sells personal computers and computer peripheral equipment.

We are presently incapacitated due to international legal boundaries to
exert pressure on our delinquent customers and we request for your
services accordingly. We got your contact information from the Online
Lawyers Directory as a result of our search for a reliable firm or
individual to provide legal services as requested.

After a careful review of your profile as well as your qualification and
experience, we are of the opinion that you are capable and qualified to
provide the legal services as requested.

On behalf of Wo Kee Hong (Holdings) Ltd. Please accept my sincerest
appreciation in advance for your willingness to render your services as we
look forward to your prompt response to our request.

Yours truly,

Mr Richard Lee
Executive Chairman, CEO

If you receive an email with "To: undisclosed recipients: ;" in the header details, it very likely means that the same message was sent to many other hidden email addresses. Also there is no recipient name in the body of the email, yet another sign that the criminals behind this scam have sent it to more than one person.

Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from [196.3.183.84] <- IP points to Nigeria
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009
From: Amirul Bin Yusof <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Subject: ENQUIRY FOR A LEGAL REPRESENTATIONS
To: undisclosed recipients: ;



ENQUIRY FOR A LEGAL REPRESENTATIONS

Dear Counsel,

I am sending this email as a mutual introduction. My name is Mr. Amirul Bin Yusof of AMIRUL & TING - LEGAL FIRM in Malaysia. I represent a company in Malaysia that manufactures Filter Aid for Sludge and Waste Water Treatment, Dewatering Agent, Coating Services: The Company is owed payment on shipments that they made to customers in USA from February 2008. The company is now seeking advice and possible representation in litigation against the non-paying companies in your Country.

I cannot handle this matter at this point because it is out of my jurisdiction. I have represented this company in the past; therefore I am assisting them in finding an attorney in the required country. Kindly contact me if you are interested in representing him so I can link you up with him.

Should you have any questions please contact me for more details.

Sincerely,
Amirul Bin Yusof

This scam directs the victim(s) to contact [email protected] I have noticed that the domain concordsplc.com appears to be locked. Our website killers will correct me if I'm wrong but it would seem that the scammer cannot access this email account [email protected] However it is very likely that this scam script has been used before and will be used again. Having it posted here will help those searching key features of the script to find it.

P.S. the legitimate domain for Concord Electrical Pte Ltd. appears to be cepl.com.sg

Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from 13.224.204.41.client13.directonpc.net
(13.224.204.41.client13.directonpc.net [41.204.224.13]) <- IP points to Nigeria
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009
From: "Concord Electrical Pte Ltd., Singapore" <[email protected]>
Reply-to: [email protected]
To: undisclosed-recipients: ;
Subject: Representation request.


Dear Counsel,

I had previously attempted to contact you; please confirm the receipt of
this
mail due to its importance and advise if you will be in a position to
represent
us. Haven carried out a careful review, we have decided to contact you for a
possible representation of my company in North America. Concord
Electrical/Manufacturing Pte Ltd is an electrical company in Asia. We would
require your legal representation for our North American delinquent
Customers.

We are of the opinion that a reputable attorney is required to represent us
in
North America in order for us to recover monies due to our organization by
oversea customers, and as well follow up with these accounts. In order to
achieve these objectives a good and reputable law firm like yours will be
required to handle this service. We understand that a proper Attorney Client
agreement must be entered into by both parties. This will be done
immediately
we receive your letter of acceptance.


Awaiting your swift Response.

Sincerely,
Dwayne Walter Weng,
Concord Electrical/Manufacturing Pte Ltd.

Hi:

I am an attorney. I received an email inquiry from an attorney in Belgium whom I looked up on Martindale-Hubbell and had an apparently legitimate listing in Belgium and what looks like a real website. He was seeking representation for a client of his in China who is owed money by a company in my state. I told him to provide me with more information, he emailed back and said he would put the client in touch with me. The client, China Steel Corporation, appears to be a real company and the company that owes it money is a legitimate company here in my state. He attached to his email an agreement between China Steel and this local company that is signed by a manager who appears to be a real manager of the local company.

Much of the language in the initial email from the Chinese company looks very similar to the language I've seen in the scam emails posted. Can anyone help me figure this out?

Hi and welcome to Scamwarners.
From what you have told me, it is almost certainly the same scam. The fact that the companies and website are genuine proves nothing. There's nothing easier for a scammer to do than include the names of real people and businesses in their scams. The give-away signs tend to be free webmail addresses such as Gmail, Yahoo, etc, and phone numbers that don't match.
You can always look up the supposed delinquent company in the phone book (don't use any number quoted in the emails) , and give them a ring.
Ca you quote the emails here? With any personal info redacted (my word of the week!).

Again, what I find amazing is that they would prepare an agreement, put in the name of a real manager from the delinquent company, and then sign his name and pdf the document to me. Anyway -- here's the redacted email:

Dear Mr. ,
We have reference from [name of real attorney in Belgium] in the case of breach of contract, and we are grateful for your willingness to take time from your busy schedule to look into our case. Please find attached a scanned copy of the last letter of agreement that was breached, when firm have done a conflict check.

[] was established in 1953 who is exclusively engaged in the business of import / export of Steels & Chemicals and manufacturer's representative of various types of raw materials for industrial use. With customers in North America, Africa, Europe and off course Asia. We request your representation in a possible litigation to enable us collect a debt owed to us by a delinquent customer. We sincerely appreciate your time in reviewing our request and. we are willing to work with you to achieve our goal, as the importance of your services cannot be over emphasized.

I understand the importance of retaining your services accordingly and we shall provide necessary documentation .We understand your request for more information and we will not relent in providing information as they deem necessary. We are of the opinion that once our presence is established in your state via a legal representative our customer will have no option but comply with payment request to avoid legal action and litigation.

We believe that a normal scenario will require a telephone call or demand letter from you to our delinquent customer if your services is retained. We believe that litigation should be applied as a last resort as we intend to preserve the relationship we have with our customer after payment is made. We do not intend to resort to litigation unless all other options have been exhausted but we will like the comfort of knowing that the option is available and letting our customer know that litigation may be enforced if the option becomes necessary.

We understand the present economic meltdown all around the Globe , however we also need to service our creditors. we have been advise by our attorney in Antwerp, Belgium., the need of running a conflict check as a first step to accepting any case that is why we are providing our delinquent customer located in your state for your conflict check and to enable you present to us your retainer agreement for your services. The name of the adverse party is

This particular customer was supplied galvanized steel of USD$972,681.00 of which they made payment of USD138,000.The sum of USd$834,681 is been past due as our regular sale agreement requires customers to effect payment not later than 30-45 days upon delivery or legal action may be enforced if payment delay exceeds 90 days. Delivery for this customer was made in June of 2008 and our calculation shows that payment is about fourteen months late. The customer confirmed delivery of shipment in good condition. It will be very helpful if we receive your standard retainer agreement on or before Friday 23rd October, 2009. This will enable our board decide on the conditions of your retainer.

We thank you for your business as we look forward to your prompt response; and also looking forward to a fruitful business relationship with you/firm.

Sincerely,

Hi Keith and welcome. That's definitely a scam email, just a variation of the ones posted here.

Note that this paragraph:

I understand the importance of retaining your services accordingly and we shall provide necessary documentation .We understand your request for more information and we will not relent in providing information as they deem necessary. We are of the opinion that once our presence is established in your state via a legal representative our customer will have no option but comply with payment request to avoid legal action and litigation.

shows up elsewhere and is identified as a scam. Here is one example: http://suckerswanted.blogspot.com/2009/ ... o-ltd.html (scroll down a bit to see the email that matches yours).

A Google search of key sentences of your email will likely yield other matches as well. If you can post the email header we may be able to help you identify where the email originated. As Arnold said, scammers will often "piggyback" on legitimate businesses names and websites to try to seem legitimate as lawyers will often research the information.


Edit: Further searching shows that this phrase:

was established in 1953 who is exclusively engaged in the business of import / export of Steels & Chemicals and manufacturer's representative of various types of raw materials for industrial use.

is being used in an employment scam email here: http://scamoftheday.com/wordpress/2009/ ... ve-needed/

Again, what I find amazing is that they would prepare an agreement, put in the name of a real manager from the delinquent company, and then sign his name and pdf the document to me.

This is a more sophisticated and successful scam than many. It's caught many US lawyers.
And they'll have sent the email and agreement to very many lawyers.
If anyone doubts the trouble a scammer will go to while scamming, I point them here.
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